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fangirl_says) wrote2008-05-27 08:53 pm
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Creation says Samantha Ferris is too 'working class' for them
Hrm...looks like Creation screwed up (I know, I'm just as shocked as you are!)
From Samantha Ferris's blog:
I should clarify for you here, Carrie....this is certainly no attack on the volunteers...i know the long hours and hard work you put in and i respect you all greatly put in.....my frustration is with the guys putting it in. I find there antics a bit slimy and not 'above board', I'm afraid. Can't speak for the other guests, but after the convention in Chicago (which we rocked at) i was told that i would not be invited back because they heard me say on stage that i was a bartender in the past and they thought that was a little too 'working class' for a guest on their stage. Then they invited me last minute to LA and renegged for reasons that weren't clear. For the Dallas convention, we had a deal, they promoted my appearance and then backed out on a couple of details. So we had to bail out. So you can understand my frustration, right? LOVE the volunteers at conventions...it would never happen without them and they do it all for no money. My hats off to them all.....but the boys at the top need to check their 'decency meter'.....cause it's a bit low.
Wow. Said it wasn't going to dish...and there i did. kinda felt good...in a mean, slightly bitchy kinda way......but its all true and i stand by every word.
By sam ferris @ 27 May 2008 10:15 am
From Samantha Ferris's blog:

Wow. Said it wasn't going to dish...and there i did. kinda felt good...in a mean, slightly bitchy kinda way......but its all true and i stand by every word.

By sam ferris @ 27 May 2008 10:15 am
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In short... bzuh?
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I want to go to a con now... but I can't afford it!! Maybe it is for the best if the con-makers are so nutty.
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Um, do these people not get that the majority of actors today have come from working class roots?
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*headdesks*
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I'd rather have been wrong. :(
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So... she's too working class to promote a show about working class guys? Nice. Real nice.
Fuck you and burn in meathook Hell, Creation
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And well, I could understand even if they had said she was being negative *ducks from the fangirls* Seeing as her last few appearances have been on the bitter-side. Not that I can blame her, but still. Not good for publicity
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I wonder how many modern actors meet their exacting standards of the Proper Guests they host on their stages?
Personally, I'm guessing not too many. {wry look}
Anne Elizabeth Baldwin
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Also? My mom put a roof over our heads and food on the table as a bartender from the time I was 8 years old until the day she died. I am personally offended at their attitude.
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But then you are talking about CREATION and in my opinion that is one fucked up group.
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As for whether Samantha says things she should keep to herself...well, that's certainly possible. A couple of things she said at Eyecon surprised me, and I do think she may tend toward exaggeration. Then again, all we know of the situation is what we hear from her, so who knows?
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I am asking because reposting people's comments from other sites without their permission is illegal and can be seen as a violation of LJ's terms of service.
Also to me it's always nice make sure to show someone the simple courtesy of asking them if they want their personal comments reposted other places before doing so. To me, it's the right thing to do not only because it is what the law of copyright is all about, but for the simple reason that it makes them aware of where the comments are going and how they are being used and if they want their comments reposted or not.
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Now, that's American law, so if the blog is physically based in another country, the laws may vary somewhat. However, because there's no statement of copyright, or even a request that the information not be reposted elsewhere, AND I quoted one small part AND attributed it to her AND linked to the original source, AND I'm clearly not making any money from this post, I'm confident that I'm not doing anything illegal. Just as a reporter does not have to ask permission to quote what someone has said in the newspaper, no permission is needed here.
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As for the fair use law, if you read it over you will see that 'fair use' only means that you can legally use a small portion of the original material of her blog comment posting. That would mean you can repost the first sentance or two but not the entire thing.
As for there being more serious things for me to worry about, I suppose that being concerned that Ms. Ferris could turn out to be someone who ends up filing a DMC violation report against Hancoll and have her entire LJ shut down because of copyright infringement isn't really all that serious in the grand scheme of things, but since I like hancoll and really enjoy reading her posts and her insights into things and would not want to see her lose her LJ because someone wasn't asked if they could have their highly personal and somewhat strong comments about an organization reposted elsewhere.
I'm not saying that Samantha Ferris would do this, but that is always the risk anyone runs when they repost the entire content of copyrighted material without permission.
It's also possible that it could turn out that this conflict of interest between Ms. Ferris and Creation could become a major legal issue and I just think it might be a good thing for Ms. Ferris to have more control over where her words go and be able to keep track of how they are responded to so she isn't blindsided by something that could cause her serious legal issues. I for one can see Creation having a serious issue with her comments costing them business or ticket sales.
I mean doesn't Samantha Ferris deserve that bit of courtesy considering she was open and forhtright with everyone on her blog. I guess I do consider this a serious matter and I do consider showing her that consideration something I would seriously like to see happen. She has been open and forthcoming with fans, why not show her the same courtsey by asking if her issues with Creation can be shared on other sites and reposted. It may very well be that she has no problem with that and will gladly give permission. But asking is always respectful and good thing to do not just for the person who owns the material but to cover yourself as well and protect your own LJ from being possibly taken away from you.
I'm sorry if that is too serious and I apologize for making anyone feel bad.
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You might have noticed that I didn't post it in whole. I posted a paragraph, which, again, is fair use.
That would mean you can repost the first sentence or two but not the entire thing.
I didn't post the entire thing. Again, I posted a paragraph. And whether or not it's the first two sentences or a paragraph near the end makes no difference. To be blunt, you're wrong.
Samantha Ferris is not going to file any sort of report about me for this post, because I clearly have not done anything wrong. LJ is not going to kick me off for quoting a person in my journal with proper attribution. She's a smart woman, and I'm sure if she didn't want her thoughts heard, she wouldn't have put them out there -- however, the point is still that I haven't done anything wrong here.
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But I still wish that Samantha Ferris had been asked her permission first before any part of her comment was reposted elsewhere especially over such a controvesial topic that could cause her problems with Creation. But she is a grown woman and is most likely aware of what might happen.
But hey I had your best interest at heart and was genuinely concerned that you might get hurt in all of this..maybe that counts for something right???
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If you consider this a "serious matter" then you might try doing the serious reading to go along with it. Googling "Understanding Fair Use" would be a good start.
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Get a life darling... there are more important things to worry over... seriously.
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I'm kind of glad that James isn't going to be at fangoria in June. Now I won't have to feel bad about the fact that I'm not going to anymore of their snobbish events.
*clings to eyecon*
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(Anonymous) 2008-05-30 04:53 am (UTC)(link)I didn't intend to turn this into a Creation asskicking, but i have to say that I had to smile when i read these.
xo
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As for Creation, I think they deserve this asskicking and plenty more, from what I've heard of them. And if it made you smile, all the better. Take care! :D