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*With the utmost respect to Mr. Whedon, of course.

I'm writing this as I read the flist, getting more and more gobsmacked at exactly how awesome Eric Kripke really is, and how much more there is to Supernatural than even we fans realized.



So, the Yellow-Eyed Demon has a name: Azazel. And, as pointed out by [livejournal.com profile] bowtrunkle, we were foreshadowed for this little fact way back in 2X01, "In My Time of Dying". How? John Winchester told us.

Remember the symbol John drew in the hospital basement, when he was summoning the YED?



That? Is Azazel's sigil. Kripke was telling us, more than a season ago, who the YED was. This, my friends is quality storytelling -- Joss Whedonesque storytelling. If ever there was a doubt that Kripke knows where the story is going -- and has always known -- it's clear now that he does. He's not a Chris Carter (X-Files) or a J.J. Abrams (Lost), spinning a story out of control by simply adding questions instead of answering any, with no clear idea of how the story ends. Kripke gets it. I've said this all along -- he gets it because he's a fanboy himself. He's one of us, and that makes all the difference.

Random trivia: When Credence Clearwater Revival's "Run Through the Jungle" is playing, the captioning says it's an Iggy Pop song (I missed getting the title). This is the second time I'm noticed different music noted in the captioning than we're actually hearing -- in "Folsom Prison Blues", captioning said the song of the same name by Johnny Cash is playing, but it was actually a completely different song. Again, I can't remember which, just that it DEFINITELY WASN'T JOHNNY CASH KTHX.

More once I've seen the ep a couple more times. :D

Date: 2007-10-26 06:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shoiryu.livejournal.com
I haven't seen the ep yet, but I'm reading everything, and MAN OH MAN. This is the kind of thing I like to point people at when I'm pimping the show.

(This also implies John knew exactly who he was, too. Uhhhhhh oh boy, John!)

Date: 2007-10-28 02:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fangirlsays.livejournal.com
This is the kind of thing I like to point people at when I'm pimping the show.

Yes. Exactly that, yes! I so love that the show presents as 'pretty boys fighting monsters every week' but there's actually so much going on just below the surface. It makes it so much a more satisfying watch. :D

Date: 2007-10-26 07:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fleshflutter.livejournal.com
There is nothing more awesome than a creator who knows where the story's going from the very beginning. It makes the whole experience so much more rewarding. :)

Date: 2007-10-28 02:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fangirlsays.livejournal.com
Oh, man, so much more rewarding and so much more satisfying. I /love/ this sort of thing! This is what I thought "Lost" was going to be, back in the first season or two. *squishes show to her bosom*

Date: 2007-10-26 07:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] goonies-nsd.livejournal.com
Completely me-being-a-dingaling side story: I could've SWORN that symbol was a math equation in Good Will Hunting (alas, It is not [credit mattdamonfan.net])

Other things it is not:
a horse
the color blue
my middle name

Just for the record.

Date: 2007-10-28 02:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fangirlsays.livejournal.com
Hee! *snorgles you*

Date: 2007-10-26 07:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zanne68.livejournal.com
Seriously, someone needs to make up a line diagram or something to keep track of all this stuff. Maybe Sam could do that for us, as he tries to figure out who some of these demons are and how they connect to him. The dude has demons who want to kill him, demons who want to help him, hunters who want to kill him, hunters who want to help him, and the FBI and heaven knows how many police departments wanting to throw him in jail. I'd be keeping a tally sheet in my wallet if I were him, just to keep it all straight.

Date: 2007-10-28 02:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fangirlsays.livejournal.com
Definitely. I'm thinking of starting some sort of master list for symbolism, use of colors, repeated uses of phrases, etc, mostly just because OMG this is so not your usual TV show.

Date: 2007-10-26 09:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] brianrubin.livejournal.com
THAT is freaking awesome. I had no idea it was all connected like that, but that just increases both my love and respect for this show all the more. :)

Date: 2007-10-28 02:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fangirlsays.livejournal.com
Absolutely. The more I find out, the more I'm just boggling. We knew this was a good show, but finding out that there's more just beneath the surface is freakin' awesome! :D

Date: 2007-10-26 10:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] plutogirl10.livejournal.com
Oooh. I always thought that was a pentagram, that John drew. It all makes sense now.

Date: 2007-10-28 02:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fangirlsays.livejournal.com
I'm just boggling. I can't get over how cool it is that things like this have been set up /seasons/ ago. Now I'm dying to find out what we'll discover next!

Date: 2007-10-26 10:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] randombastary.livejournal.com
When homegirl actually said "Azazel," I nearly fell down in a squeeing fit of joy. And to turn Lucifer into a myth ... but one that could possibly show up ... slice of fried gold.

Date: 2007-10-28 02:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fangirlsays.livejournal.com
Oh, man, I'm serious; every time I think this show couldn't get any more awesome, it goes and one-ups itself again! So much love omg.

Date: 2007-10-26 10:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] deathisyourart.livejournal.com
There is a post in [livejournal.com profile] spn_heavymeta from October 25th of last year, in it [livejournal.com profile] ataniell93 brought up the symbol and the connetion to Azazel. She now has a theory on who Ruby represents that I am axiously waiting for.

Angels both fallen and aloft have bee mentioned a few times int he series (many times last season) and there have been one or two references to the Nephilim but other than the Azazel symbol you had to squint to notice them.

Sam I believe (I brought this up early last year I think) is Samael, and Dean was paralleled to Michael in Houses of the Holy. I have some other symbolism stuff in this post:
http://deathisyourart.livejournal.com/99925.html

Date: 2007-10-28 02:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fangirlsays.livejournal.com
Thank you for pointing those out! I've been lax in reading a lot of the meta till now; I need to go back and get caught up on it all, because things like this make the whole show experience so much better.

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